Monday, September 20, 2004

Women's Group Meeting & Prob. 31:10 A Wife of Noble Charter

I could write several entries lol but will take it step by step and do a recap of Sunday and save the story of my trip to the Library for another entry.

Sat. I got a bug in me and went on a Diet Pepsi & Jim spree. Can you see me shaking my head right now?? Tisk Tisk.. I got very drunk.  Why?? Cuz I could! I was very amusing to my husband I am sure and to anyone who called to talk to me or chat with me that night.  Why is it whenever I veer off the righteous path just an inch or so and let loose some, I get those theological calls from friends or family I had not spoken too in months????? OK. that could be a whole other entry. But the gist of it is my cousin called me about my brother who is in jail.. Haven't talked to her in almost a year and she was shocked to find me drunk, she didn't think I drank at all.  Then my friend Consuelo called me from Vegas.  We had an hour long conversation and now that I am remembering it, OMG.. She said something about Wicca! And her getting into it?!! YIKES!  Ya that is a whole other entry..

So needless to say Sunday Morning I am not up to going to church.  Not just because of the potential hang over, but my back was still ouchie and I didn't look forward to sitting in the same seat for 2hours or so and chasing kids.  I did talk Josh into going and taking the kids with him and I slept soundly till he got home.  He comes home and tells me how awesome Church was and all the updates and guess who is preggers and oh the music was great, the girls was dancing in the isle, and the message was on The husband's role and he really got a lot out of it and everyone asked as to my whereabouts... Great.  I missed out on what sounds like a wonderful service, why?, Cuz I had to be silly the night before and now I am paying for it, really my back was an excuse.  My friend Kathy (who I had been meaning to call all week but kept getting sidetracked) called me around 4:30 to invite me to Women's Group.  OHH YESS.. it seems like forever since I went to Women's Group.  Women's Group is very small and we don't do long studies so if someone wanted to come that normally doesn't they can just pick up and jump in.  It is more about fellowshiping than anything I think.

Kathy has been leading since the end of last winter and she is still trying to get her bearings I think.  She gave us a choice of what we wanted to learn and study on, she had two lesions prepared.  Since today's message was on the Men's Role she had one on the Women's Role and the other one was Prophecies in the OT that Jesus has fulfilled.  I was very interested in the second choice. I have done some independent study and read some on the subject.  How can you read Isaiah and NOT see Jesus all over and in it?? But I was out voted lol but I did get Kathy's notes, so all was not lost. We talked about our role in the household and the church. Really we could have spent all night and then some on that subject.  What the Bible teaches and what the World tells us are very contrary to each other actually.  It is easy to get confused and caught up I think. God's ways are always the best ways. I know many women who cringe (myself included at times) when they hear the word SUBMISSION.  The World has taken this word and given it a twisted meaning I think.  When I finally came to understand what God means by it and how it really is a good thing for ME and for my marriage it was like a load off my shoulders.  I may go into all that in a different entry too if I get a lot of questions. 

I am so happy I went to the meeting, God was all over me threw it all and really brought conviction upon me.  The biggest thing I came away with was Husbands need respect, that is their love lang. so to speak.  When we talk negatively about them, especially with in ear shot of them or in front of our children, it really kills their esteem.  Just like us women crave romance and all that mushy stuff, men crave our respect, and if they don't get it from their wives, they will seek it out in other places.

Kathy was telling us how when she got married she made the choice never to speak negatively about her husband, especially with other ppl or in front of her children.  Not an easy task if you are in that habit of being a complainer (me).  She went into telling how she had been so blessed and she attributed part of that to that rule she made for herself.  Taming our tongues are important.  And now that I think about it I don't recall her ever saying anything bad or complaining about her husband, and maybe that was the org. draw to her when I first met her, that and the loveshe and her family have for God.  OH NOT THAT she doesn't struggle and have her own issues with her husband she says.  She told the story of an argument she had years ago with him, she couldn't even remember what it was about, but it was a heated one and she had very strong words for him, belittling even, it was something she really wanted HIM to change about himself or some annoying thing he did repeatedly.  She said she walked away from him and into the Kitchen and she remembers praying GOD YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THIS MAN! She said she remembers very distinctively God telling her, Women, get out of my way so I can do the work, you keep interfering, and it is you that needs to apologies to him, even if you don't agree right now.  She said she was taken aback, and threw tears and gritting teeth said YES and went back into the room with her husband and said God has impressed it upon me to say I am sorry for what I said and left it at that.  You will not believe the countless stories there are of women bringing their husbands to the Lord just by submitting to them.  It gets the men curious of why all of a sudden the wife is listening to them and so they go check it out and come away Saved.  Apparently what ever the issue was with Kathy's husband, a few days later he went to her and said he was sorry to her and that God had been working on him about it.

Can you see how this is an issue for me lately?? If you haven't noticed I have really been railing on my husband in here.  And I have been doing the same with my friend Amy.. letting it all air out so to speak.  This has fed into the thing Amy and Josh have between each other, where they are not even on speaking terms with each other.  I came home saying to my husband "Do you KNOW I love and respect you??"  I know words are easy and actions speak louder.. so God and I are going to work on that part of myself.

Some of my notes::

1. Don't talk neg. about husband in front of others and the children.  Be an example and speak positively.

2. Be quick to apologies.

3. Let God change him, You cannot do it, that is HIS job.

4. Men need respect.. That is how God made them and that is how they will respond and know you love them.

A suggested book by another women who was at the meeting was Proper Care and Feeding of a Husband by Dr. Laura (not even going to guess at the how to spell the last name lol) you know that radio lady everyone loves to hate lol.

A good scripture with many lesson to it is:

Proverbs 31:10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price [is] far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise [is] good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household [are] clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing [is] silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth [it]; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour [are] her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue [is] the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband [also], and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30 Favour [is] deceitful, and beauty [is] vain: [but] a woman [that] feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.

31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

3 comments:

  1. ah my hub is often surprised that no matter how out of it I get the night before the next morning I can make it to services LOL Make up hids alot and Im stubborn. Glad he made it to the services and got alot out of it. I read a book called the surrendered wife. I still have it. Its  agood book except one part I have a hard time with. she does talk about a husband and how hers had pornography problems.  She has some hard things to say about submission. ITs a reallly good book ina alot of ways and I know I have a hard time being a CHISM nad strong willed and a leader not takeing charge. AND yes you dont wantto be a door mat. yeah I try not to say the bad about my hubby to others. We do have bad times and things I think HE needs to improve upon and I get aggrevated at things sometimes. But I Try not talk with others about it. I have this friend who talks about other men panting and practically worshiping htier bodies right in front of her hubby. I also know she does not inform him of things that our group does or other things. She keeps them from him. If she does not want to do it she does not tell him. She deletes the email or just never tells him. I mention things and he says what????? I never knew. My friend always syas I forgot to tell you. Hes always in the dark> I htink that is so wrong!!!!!!!! It drives me nuts. Lori

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  2. I've always found that many, many people misunderstand Poverbs 31, and it's one of my favorite pieces in the Bible.  It's so empowering about the capabilities of women.  It praises the working woman who can financially support her family and talks about why women should be respected.  It's really less about respecting and submitting to men, than reminding men why their women need respect. (I'm all for respecting men because I'm all for respecting people.  I also think that trying to change another person is pointless, because change only happens from the inside, and God makes us the way we are.)  The whole issue of submission in marriage is so fraught with misunderstanding. There are so many men who forget that Jesus, who is supposed to the role model for the head of the home, was the ultimately example of submission to the needs of the church (the role model of the wife), sacrificing His personal wellbeing for the benefit of His followers. Respect and submission are actually the same side of the coin.

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  3. You've got me thinking there...

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